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Forum Studenti •Sistema di equazioni sui complessi
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Sistema di equazioni sui complessi

Inviato: lunedì 4 settembre 2017, 15:36
da Uncle
Buonasera, invoco l'aiuto del forum per il seguente esercizio, tratto dalla scheda 7 dell'eserciziario.



Ho provato a ricavare w dalla seconda ma non riesco ad uscirne... :?

Re: Sistema di equazioni sui complessi

Inviato: lunedì 4 settembre 2017, 16:53
da GIMUSI
manipolando un po' le equazioni dovresti arrivare a questa:



e da qui osservando che con parte immaginaria negativa dovresti riuscire a trovare w e poi dalla prima equazione z

Re: Sistema di equazioni sui complessi

Inviato: lunedì 4 settembre 2017, 18:31
da Uncle
Ok con manipolazioni su entrambe le eq. arrivo qua come suggerito, vediamo ora che succede...
Quella somma a primo membro mi inquieta un po'

Re: Sistema di equazioni sui complessi

Inviato: lunedì 4 settembre 2017, 20:20
da Uncle
Allora, ho provato invano a fare ulteriori manipolazioni cercando di sfruttare il secondo suggerimento proposto, dopodiché ho optato per la via esponenziale arrivando alle soluzioni di ,
e poi prodotto da .
Altre vie?

Re: Sistema di equazioni sui complessi

Inviato: lunedì 4 settembre 2017, 23:17
da GIMUSI
bene! ovviamente devi trovare anche i corrispondenti valori di z e non trascurare il caso z=0

con l'esponenziale va benissimo lo stesso penso se non porta a calcoli troppo complicati

allego un possibile svolgimento alternativo, fammi sapere se è tutto chiaro :)

Re: Sistema di equazioni sui complessi

Inviato: martedì 5 settembre 2017, 0:39
da Uncle

Re: Sistema di equazioni sui complessi

Inviato: martedì 5 settembre 2017, 12:00
da Massimo Gobbino
Altra soluzione. Prendendo i moduli nella prima equazione troviamo che



Da qui, con semplici passaggi precorsistici, ci riduciamo a tre casi, e cioè oppure oppure .

Ora nei primi due abbiamo praticamente finito. Nel restante caso, moltiplico la seconda equazione per e ottengo che



e cioè, tenendo conto della prima equazione,



Ora il lhs è reale, dunque deve essere reale pure il rhs, dunque per un qualche numero reale . Ricordando che troviamo l'equazione



e direi che i giochi sono fatti!

@Uncle: ebbene sì, quella scheda di esercizi sui complessi contiene di tutto. Se uno risolve quelli, non ha problemi di nessun tipo.

Re: Sistema di equazioni sui complessi

Inviato: martedì 5 settembre 2017, 14:09
da Uncle
Salve Professore, essendo nuovo da queste parti, colgo l'occasione del suo intervento per farle i complimenti, ringraziarla del materiale che mette a disposizione e dell'ulteriore chiarimento dell'esercizio ovviamente.
In merito alla scheda sui complessi dico menomale che sia di un certo spessore, perché di esercizi in giro sui complessi se ne trovano pochi di un certo livello, almeno per quanto riguarda analisi 1.

Re: Sistema di equazioni sui complessi

Inviato: martedì 5 settembre 2017, 14:34
da GIMUSI
bene molto interessante anche questo metodo segnalato dal prof di mettere in modulo tutta l'equazione :)

in effetti sui complessi tra moduli, coniugi, etc. il divertimento nel risolvere le equazioni è assicurato :lol: